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Philip Mundhenk's avatar

Thank you. This is possibly the best comment on the murder I've seen and possibly the best piece of yours I've read. Kirk was extremely influential and his views were rapidly evolving toward a more libertarian-ish non-interventionism driven by a deeper understanding of the world. They, whoever "they" are, wanted to stop that, before it progressed any further or influenced more people. Cui bono? Certainly Kiev is near the top of the list, but so are the Likudnik monsters who own so many of our American politicians, and so are the people allied with the MIC. They don't care so much about shallow "conservatives" that have just copied and set in stone a glib patter they claim is an ideology, nor the old ones that are almost gone like Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul. But young thinkers are dangerous to them. Tucker better watch his back.

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Phillip Waring's avatar

Interesting that he was shot immediately after blaming transgender people for mass shootings.

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Philip Mundhenk's avatar

I've thought about that. It suggests a greater likelihood that the killer was an operative of the old-boy network of the powerful that people now loosely refer to as the "deep state" (although my understanding is that originally that term essentially meant the bureaucracy). I believe this is both real and more prosaic in character than many believe.

I believe in essence that it is a hidden shadow government comprising a network of powerful people that influence policy to concentrate power into a smaller clique. Through media influence, campaign donations, and the occasional murder.

Not a comic-book style conspiracy that has a formal memberships, secret hand shakes, or annual meetings in some basement in Zurich where they plot where every sparrow will fall. That sort of Hollyweird Q-ish conception may even be their work to make their opponents look ridiculous. I think some of them are powerful simply because they are rich. Bezos might be in that category, although I suspect he was recruited, possibly reluctantly, during the Obama years with the carrot of a massive cloud computing contract from the CIA that nobody can verify they actually get any use out of, and the stick of "Nice business you have here. Be a shame if the anti-trust people decided to bust it up."

In contrast, I think the Zuckerborg is their creation. They made him rich in return for taking Lifelog, recoding it, claiming it as his own, and launching is as a vehicle for mass surveillance and social engineering. Others are in it because they have the expertise or know the people with the expertise, to kill people, frame people, astroturf "popular movements," and overthrow governments. Brennan is in that category. I think Clinton was tapped when he was governor if not earlier.

I don't think they have a uniform agenda, but more of a loose confederacy of shared interests. I don't think they're all American by any means. I don't think the network has sharp in-or-out boundaries, but more a network of acquaintance with plenty of borderline cases. I suspect Whitney Webb is probably right that, even if it existed earlier, its nature probably changed a lot during WW-II when the government started using the organized crime networks, which in turn began to subvert the government. Now it is hard to say where government ends and mob begins. Certainly JFK was aware of this and affected by it - read Hersh's Dark Side of Camelot. Clearly at one point he tried to work with them. But I suspect he was never really on board, so they killed him.

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CelticJedi's avatar

Planned question and response to trigger shot. Probably has nothing to do with shoot motives. ATF "finding" a trans gun in the woods to me reinforces that. No different than the Carcano carbine found in the Book Depository. It was planned. Who??? $64 question. Time may reveal.

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Simon Abbott's avatar

why? you really think so? more likely pure coincidence... either that or deliberately avoiding the issues which they really wanted to kill Kirk for and maximizing the outrage for morons like you

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Igor's avatar

Mossad

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Mr. Raven's avatar

Yes. He turned on his masters and they killed him. That was not a shot an amateur could pull off.

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Realist's avatar

That certainly is possible...it is not beneath them.

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Peter Andrew Nolan's avatar

Yes Alexander, telling the truth in the west is very dangerous. I have had 4 national governments trying to murder me for 13 years and for 15 years I have had many women calling for my murder. I now live in Fiji as a "political exile" and live under an assumed name. That is what I felt was necessary to secure my personal safety as best as I could.

May I also say to you that I am sorry for the loss of your daughter and may I offer you my condolences. As a former father myself I know how this must be for you. May she rest in peace.

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Phillip Waring's avatar

lol! You living in Fiji. Oooops! Tell those 4 countries where you live…..

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Peter Andrew Nolan's avatar

I have secured my safety as best as I possibly can here Phillip. Prior to living here I was living in Germany and my home address was public.

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Cynthia Lucas's avatar

Thank you Charlie was awakening to the demons who are working to help crush America.Charlie beleived in the Good the True and the Beautiful. He was awakening to the Zionist evil and strong hold they have over our Politicans.His wife children and himself went to mass every morning much like Candace Owen who also converted. Please pray for America we lost a good man.

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URsomoney's avatar

Charlie although a role model Christian, wasn’t Catholic so I doubt he & family. went to mass every morning.

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Seth H's avatar

Well articulated and accurate assessment of who Charlie was and how conservatives in America see his work. I pray that his memory lives on and we who remain will share his zeal for truth. Thank you.

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Realist's avatar

Great article, but the Deep State is not made up of liberals; in fact, the Deep State is made up of rapacious megalomaniacs. They have no party affiliation; their goal is wealth and total control.

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Steve Hindmarch's avatar

Israeli American IDF sniper. He may as well have written his name on the bullet. Mr Kirk was just about to flip against the genocidal Zionist entity.

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Luc de Vries's avatar

There are rumours that by 95% of the shootings in the US 🇺🇸 the FBI is involved ☝️

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Phillip Waring's avatar

The garbage spewed on this site are the reason AmeriKKKa is doomed. Pathetic , wild ridiculous stories, skewed loyalty and fawning over a rapist, pedophile, lying ,self serving Demi God! Remember every Nazi regime has crumbled, succumbed to truth and majority rule. You will eat your young and then yourself.

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Georgos hafez's avatar

Кто убил Чарли Кирка?

Это Александр Сорос, один из молодых мировых лидеров на Всемирном экономическом форуме 2018 года.

С остальными представителями Глубинного государства.

Не знаю, способствовал ли Чарли Кирк возвращению Трампа после его похищения.

Убийство совпало с попыткой обратить внимание Европейского союза на Польшу.

Глубинное государство обычно прибегает к подобной тактике, когда ситуация выходит из-под его контроля.

Несмотря на владение СМИ, банками и бизнесом в Соединенных Штатах, оно переживает кризис.

Глубинное государство понимает неизбежность прихода Трампа к власти.

Сравнение политики Байдена по поддержке Украины и Израиля с политикой Трампа.

Администрация Байдена безоговорочно поддержала войну в Газе и «Хезболлу», и мы все знаем результаты...

Пока Трамп вынужден следовать примеру Нетаньяху и скрывать свои действия, Трамп также начал дистанцироваться от террористического режима Зеленского.

Поэтому я считаю, что время не на стороне Глубинного государства.

Глубинное государство будет эксплуатировать Соединенные Штаты до последнего момента, прежде чем страна погрузится в хаос, а ее инфраструктура будет разрушена.

Глубинное государство будет эксплуатировать Соединенные Штаты для достижения своих целей на Ближнем Востоке...

Грядет цунами...

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Phillip Waring's avatar

Another Russian Bot spreading their filth!

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