Musk was groomed & trained at The Edge Foundation seminars and meetings funded, organized and attended (run?) by Jeffrey Epstein, along with several other prominent US "Tech Lords".
Musk is not the great hope for our future, he's just another oligarch aiming us towards a neo feudal society where his ilk are the new nobility, using AI, predictive algorithms based on our stolen metadata and their money to rule the rest of us as powerless peasants.
Dugin has a dispassionate perspective from outside, which allowed him to identify MAGA as a third party. MAGA dominated and co-opted the Republican Party, but much the same as the now moribund Tea Party was infiltrated and subverted by establishment politicians and traitors, MAGA was undermined from within, particularly at the top.
Presently, all that remains of paleoconservatives/libertarians is the Freedom Caucus in the House, and perhaps Rand Paul and Mike Lee in the Senate.
I agree with the articulate commenter who opined on Musk. Musk is likely a Zionist, or else pragmatic enough to play along with the powers that be. Musk already rescued us from a progressive media tyranny, albeit with concessions to the Semitic masters, and his America Party could transcend Musk's personal world view, and become a powerful force for populism and nationalism.
Musk is the only person who may be able to build the vehicle, and then the people will drive it, which is Musk's intention, and could become his greatest legacy.
What brought Trump to power was the coopting of Pat Buchanan’s play book and ideas ( Pat was the only Republican that Trump couldn’t beat ) but had no clue as to how to actually put them into practice… Witness the fiasco of Trump’s tariff wars.
I don’t know who can lead our fledgling America First party but I’m pretty sure it isn’t Musk, however he may well be useful in bringing down Trump.
The rise of this so-called "third position" in American politics, something halfway between techno-libertarianism and nationalist populism, is still largely undefined. But if it ever takes real power, it won’t just be another party or political experiment; it could mean the total breakdown of the state as we know it. A radical reset of how power is organized in the U.S.
This is where our Elon enters the scene.
Musk likes to present himself as anti-establishment, anti-regulation, and anti-state. He is publicly clashed with pretty much every federal agency, SEC, FAA, DOJ, always painting himself as the lone genius battling bloated, corrupt bureaucracy.
That brings us to the core tension: the Trump movement, now fully consuming the Republican Party, is no longer interested in libertarianism. It has evolved into a new form of ideological statism, centralized, culture-focused, and unapologetically authoritarian. It wants the government to serve the “nation” (new classical wars) not just the economy, and it’s willing to wield state power to protect its cultural identity.
That leaves Musk in an awkward place. He needs the Republicans to have any political leverage. But the GOP is becoming something he can’t fully control. Without them, he is politically irrelevant. But here’s the part that’s often overlooked; especially by analysts stuck in Cold War categories: Elon Musk isn’t anti-Zionist. Not at all.
Yes, Musk is deeply anti-woke, and that includes a fierce opposition to Soros and the liberal Jewish-American establishment. And yes, that also includes the Kushners and their complex entanglement with Trump. But that is not where Musk’s alliances really lie.
Musk is a friend of reformist Zionism. The 2018 constitutional reform in Israel that Netanyahu pushed through, the "Nation-State Law," which declared Israel the nation-state of the Jewish people, is, in many ways, the model Musk seems to admire and perhaps wants to adapt for the U.S. (America for the White Americans) for Europe and even for future interplanetary civilizations
Now here’s what most people really miss: Musk isn’t just a tech mogul or a meme lord. He’s become a kind of eschatological figure. He embodies a futuristic version of salvation: colonizing Mars, merging humans with machines, rebuilding the public square (X), “restoring” free speech. These aren’t just business ventures; they’re messianic projects. Musk is no longer selling products; he’s offering transcendence!!! He’s building Golems; his own Golems.And this mythic vision fits perfectly into a deeper fusion emerging between America and Israel.
Musk is very close to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, they are kinda besties. They have met publicly, discussed artificial intelligence, antisemitism, and freedom of speech, and they clearly see the world through a similar lens, whether we like it or not. But their alliance isn’t just strategic; it’s eschatological. For both, Israel is not just a country; it’s the spiritual and technological vanguard of human destiny!!! And America, in this shared vision, is not a declining empire, but the vehicle for global redemption.
Musk is the bridge!
This isn’t the old-school Zionism of 20th-century diplomats. It’s not “deep state” bureaucracy. This is revolutionary Zionism: cybernetic, prophetic, militarized. It envisions a future where power flows from innovation, not elections; from algorithms, not constitutions. And it sees liberal decadence, globalist weakness, and universalist ideology as obstacles to be purged. That’s exactly why Musk fits so well: he wages public war against liberal Jewish figures, mocks woke ideology, and openly accuses groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of ideological censorship and cultural sabotage.
In the end, Musk isn’t just a disruptor. He’s a prophet of the America–Israel future. A future where technological messianism, reformist Zionism, and American exceptionalism merge into a new political religion. Whether we like it or not, he’s already changing the script. They purged the universities under the antisemitic question... now Musk questions the war against Iran as a movement to severe MAGA movement within republicanism, but it doesn't mean he hasn't deep ties to Israel; perhaps deeper than we can imagine.
The main problem I see here is that no one fully grasped what zionism is and they took given old definitions and assumed the anti-zionism thing as a realistic position. This is/was fully strategic for this particular escathology both nations share...
Elon has failed at many political goals including the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. Backing a party to cut entitlements in mass democracy will not be successful.
Trump has always been a strong supporter of Israel. In his first term he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and recognized Israel control of the Golam Heights. On Ukraine he promised to end the war quickly and now finds the continued bombing by Russia a personal embarrassment. Neither of these issues are core MAGA issues.
Musk was groomed & trained at The Edge Foundation seminars and meetings funded, organized and attended (run?) by Jeffrey Epstein, along with several other prominent US "Tech Lords".
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/edge-foundation?triedRedirect=true
Musk is not the great hope for our future, he's just another oligarch aiming us towards a neo feudal society where his ilk are the new nobility, using AI, predictive algorithms based on our stolen metadata and their money to rule the rest of us as powerless peasants.
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/the-epstein-client-list-why-is-trump?utm_medium=reader2&triedRedirect=true
Dugin has a dispassionate perspective from outside, which allowed him to identify MAGA as a third party. MAGA dominated and co-opted the Republican Party, but much the same as the now moribund Tea Party was infiltrated and subverted by establishment politicians and traitors, MAGA was undermined from within, particularly at the top.
Presently, all that remains of paleoconservatives/libertarians is the Freedom Caucus in the House, and perhaps Rand Paul and Mike Lee in the Senate.
I agree with the articulate commenter who opined on Musk. Musk is likely a Zionist, or else pragmatic enough to play along with the powers that be. Musk already rescued us from a progressive media tyranny, albeit with concessions to the Semitic masters, and his America Party could transcend Musk's personal world view, and become a powerful force for populism and nationalism.
Musk is the only person who may be able to build the vehicle, and then the people will drive it, which is Musk's intention, and could become his greatest legacy.
Trump didn’t work out. Here’s another billionaire for you plebs to pin your pathetic little hopes on. Beg us for crumbs plebs
The american party is Musk’s attempt to fulfill his grandpa Josh Haldeman’s subversion of democracy and dominance of technocracy
What brought Trump to power was the coopting of Pat Buchanan’s play book and ideas ( Pat was the only Republican that Trump couldn’t beat ) but had no clue as to how to actually put them into practice… Witness the fiasco of Trump’s tariff wars.
I don’t know who can lead our fledgling America First party but I’m pretty sure it isn’t Musk, however he may well be useful in bringing down Trump.
Go Elon Go! 🇺🇸
I hope you are right.
The rise of this so-called "third position" in American politics, something halfway between techno-libertarianism and nationalist populism, is still largely undefined. But if it ever takes real power, it won’t just be another party or political experiment; it could mean the total breakdown of the state as we know it. A radical reset of how power is organized in the U.S.
This is where our Elon enters the scene.
Musk likes to present himself as anti-establishment, anti-regulation, and anti-state. He is publicly clashed with pretty much every federal agency, SEC, FAA, DOJ, always painting himself as the lone genius battling bloated, corrupt bureaucracy.
That brings us to the core tension: the Trump movement, now fully consuming the Republican Party, is no longer interested in libertarianism. It has evolved into a new form of ideological statism, centralized, culture-focused, and unapologetically authoritarian. It wants the government to serve the “nation” (new classical wars) not just the economy, and it’s willing to wield state power to protect its cultural identity.
That leaves Musk in an awkward place. He needs the Republicans to have any political leverage. But the GOP is becoming something he can’t fully control. Without them, he is politically irrelevant. But here’s the part that’s often overlooked; especially by analysts stuck in Cold War categories: Elon Musk isn’t anti-Zionist. Not at all.
Yes, Musk is deeply anti-woke, and that includes a fierce opposition to Soros and the liberal Jewish-American establishment. And yes, that also includes the Kushners and their complex entanglement with Trump. But that is not where Musk’s alliances really lie.
Musk is a friend of reformist Zionism. The 2018 constitutional reform in Israel that Netanyahu pushed through, the "Nation-State Law," which declared Israel the nation-state of the Jewish people, is, in many ways, the model Musk seems to admire and perhaps wants to adapt for the U.S. (America for the White Americans) for Europe and even for future interplanetary civilizations
Now here’s what most people really miss: Musk isn’t just a tech mogul or a meme lord. He’s become a kind of eschatological figure. He embodies a futuristic version of salvation: colonizing Mars, merging humans with machines, rebuilding the public square (X), “restoring” free speech. These aren’t just business ventures; they’re messianic projects. Musk is no longer selling products; he’s offering transcendence!!! He’s building Golems; his own Golems.And this mythic vision fits perfectly into a deeper fusion emerging between America and Israel.
Musk is very close to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, they are kinda besties. They have met publicly, discussed artificial intelligence, antisemitism, and freedom of speech, and they clearly see the world through a similar lens, whether we like it or not. But their alliance isn’t just strategic; it’s eschatological. For both, Israel is not just a country; it’s the spiritual and technological vanguard of human destiny!!! And America, in this shared vision, is not a declining empire, but the vehicle for global redemption.
Musk is the bridge!
This isn’t the old-school Zionism of 20th-century diplomats. It’s not “deep state” bureaucracy. This is revolutionary Zionism: cybernetic, prophetic, militarized. It envisions a future where power flows from innovation, not elections; from algorithms, not constitutions. And it sees liberal decadence, globalist weakness, and universalist ideology as obstacles to be purged. That’s exactly why Musk fits so well: he wages public war against liberal Jewish figures, mocks woke ideology, and openly accuses groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of ideological censorship and cultural sabotage.
In the end, Musk isn’t just a disruptor. He’s a prophet of the America–Israel future. A future where technological messianism, reformist Zionism, and American exceptionalism merge into a new political religion. Whether we like it or not, he’s already changing the script. They purged the universities under the antisemitic question... now Musk questions the war against Iran as a movement to severe MAGA movement within republicanism, but it doesn't mean he hasn't deep ties to Israel; perhaps deeper than we can imagine.
The main problem I see here is that no one fully grasped what zionism is and they took given old definitions and assumed the anti-zionism thing as a realistic position. This is/was fully strategic for this particular escathology both nations share...
https://www.youtube.com/live/asM0MAaJcfE?si=HPliHKKWqpep2_XL
... his real thoughts on those who had that timer to annihilate Israel and America... oooops! Then and now... 👀
Elon has failed at many political goals including the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. Backing a party to cut entitlements in mass democracy will not be successful.
Trump has always been a strong supporter of Israel. In his first term he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and recognized Israel control of the Golam Heights. On Ukraine he promised to end the war quickly and now finds the continued bombing by Russia a personal embarrassment. Neither of these issues are core MAGA issues.