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Bryan Sebunya's avatar

was pretty psyched to see this. Two very interesting figures of our time.

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Robert Widdowson's avatar

For a number of years, I taught a course on The History of Western Ideas, From Thales to Sartre at a preparatory school. I began my time as a 100% fan of the West, its worldview, primary ideas, and major practices. But the more deeply I dove into the founding philosophy the more bad root-ideas I discovered -- to my utter dismay.

The political revolutions of the 19th and 20th century have their philosophical roots in the reform movements that were generated by elite churchmen, beginning with men such as Alcuin, who was Charlemagne's chief intellectual. Key Western change-agents, those leaders who initiated fundemental changes to the Church, the Civil Magistrate, and the family were ALWAYS PHILOSOPHERS OR INFLUENCED BY PHILOSOPHERS.

And, in the Christian era, the philosophers were always without exception under the influence of Christianity, and reacted positively or negatively to the core doctrines.

Liberalism was the mature product of those ideas formulated by philosophers who reacted negatively to Christianity, either rabidly or benignly. The individualism of Augustine, which was an outlier idea within Christendom's thought-world, was borrowed and expanded, refined and redefined by other thinkers as a tool used to countermand the Christian ideal of fellowship of the saints.

And, sadly, the place where the extremist thinkers who ultimately pushed the liberal agenda to the greatest scope and degree was the British Isles -- Dugin's Anglosphere.

Liberalism is the Early-Modern equivalent of the Norman Conquest -- a small group of elites storming the corridors of power, seizing control of the 'throne,' and setting up a new regime.

During this same period, the common English person had no idea what was going on among the elites. They were too busy living a complicated, normal life.

Meanwhile, in Parliament, the House of Commons under the Whig Regime ruled the Isles with supreme power and authority. They destroyed the Ancient Regime and founded a new regime -- the modern, liberal, bureaucratic state that expanded its territory, wealth, and power thru technological innovation, military might, industrialization of the heartland, and the mobilization of the masses into a work force.

The British state became a fiscal-military regime that dominated one third of the world for a century.

And as I taught my class of young students, I realized, O crap, the West in general and Britain in particular, are the bad guys.

Western Christianity is the problem, particularly Calvinistic Christianity.

Calvinism provides the ideas and the practices necessary to train a population to submit to authority in such a way that the authority doesn't need to be heavy-handed. Rather, Calvinism teaches the subject to submit to authority because the consequences of disobedience is eternal damnation.

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the long warred's avatar

MacIntyre, Dugin and Land with respect to all of them respectively- know nothing of America.

Or Americans .

Here is American Culture;

Cajun Navy.

That they do rather than talk is typical of Americans.

They are far from different than most of us.

John Bagot Glubb (Glubb Pasha) toured America giving lectures after his job for King Hussein ended.

“America is a vast land full of many mysteries.”

Indeed you don’t know we exist.

Here is a map of Red and Blue. Blue you will notice is a spiderweb, which is why you only see Spiders.

Red is invisible to you.

We do however exist.

https://vividmaps.com/2024-presidential-election-county-by-county/

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Berluskommando's avatar

"Guénonian", not "Ghanaian"

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Eric Fuleftists's avatar

Here's the damn bottom line... nobody's listening. In this day and age, the only zeitgeist to have descended upon the world populace is pure and utter narcissism.

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the long warred's avatar

It’s impossible for foreigners to understand another people. Most Americans aren’t interested in the world, their Anglo Puritan elites are… and we don’t care for each other. A major part of this plays out in Foreign policy because that’s where the real power grabs can happen.

The Ukraine war for instance is in part the Atlanticists shoring up their positions in Europe for strategic depth, for the same reasons the Roman Civil War had Pompey and later Brutus and Cassius , Finally Antony fighting across the Adriatic or Mediterranean.

Culture? Our culture isn’t on the screen and no one here including the interviewer or Land, Dugin understand us.

And I like Land, I sympathize with Dugin, but they’re academics and above all not American.

If you wanted to understand our culture you might have to go to places in America that are Red and not Blue, a bit far from the airport.

What is your country, Ms Arglat ? Just so I can reciprocate your courtesy.

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