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stylianos kostudianos's avatar

Ai means nothing and all

This is nothing again 😑 we the customer got the power to choose that the artificial is not intelligence without consciousness...

And I will stop here because I got this broken English spell ing especially when I type

With love from Greece 🇬🇷 😍 ❤️ 💙

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Joanna Martin's avatar

What Aleksandr Pushkin did for Russian Literature, you can now do for Russian culture as a whole.

I'm an American who fell in love with traditional Russian culture many decades ago when I was a young child. My mother was a piano teacher and had the sheet music for the great Russian piano composers (Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, etc.) and orchestral recordings of the great Russian music. Russian orchestral music of this period is distinctive (Oh!, that Russian "5th"!) Oh my beloved Shostakovich! One of the first recordings I listened to over & over & over again was Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf" (in English). It was the "Russianness" of it which I loved. I saw pictures of traditional Russian brightly colored churches with onion domes. I loved it all. I read several of Dostoevsky's novels, but didn't like those because I thought the characters were so irrational!

In my late teens, I discovered Pushkin! I loved it. I understand that he is called "The Father of Russian Literature" because he was the first real "Russian" writer. I heard that before Pushkin, Russian novels copied French novels in style & content. But Pushkin wrote about Russians - and, he wrote in the Russian language. Apparently, before Pushkin, the Russian "elite" spoke in French; and looked down on the peasants who spoke Russian. And the culture of the real Russian" people was ignored. And it does NOT help that one or more of the more recent Russian monarchs were NOT Russian! Catherine the Great was a German, wasn't she?

And then I read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn! Another real Russian writer.

Recently, I've seen on Amazon Prime several miniseries which fascinate me - they seem so "Russian" and they are visually gorgeous: e.g., The Golden Horde & Godunov. The inside of Prince Yaraslov's home has gorgeous stencils painted on the walls - I would dearly love to be able to buy such stencils.

Russian folk art is wonderful!

So it occurs to me that for some reason I cannot understand, Russians have long had an inferiority complex about their culture. But Russian culture (as I have seen it reflected in art) is beautiful! So restore it and glory in it!

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Joanna Martin's avatar

The Song is beautiful and the singer is very good! And her headdress is lovely. Thank you! But the instrumental accompaniment, especially for one of the Songs, is in the decadent clanging-banging Western style - and so are the lights on the stage. I hate to see Russia westernize their Folk Art. Western popular music is decadent - who thinks it's better then Russian folk songs with Russian instrumental accompaniments?

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Joanna Martin's avatar

My undergraduate degree is in philosophy. I studied statist German philosophy; but Russian philosophy never made its appearance in my [American] courses. But I don't see Kant & Hegel marrying up with Russians! But then, all I know of Russia is what is revealed in their arts (music, architecture & literature). I dismiss the Communist take-over as something other than genuine Russian. I believe this is consistent with what my beloved Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said.

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Joanna Martin's avatar

I should say "all I KNEW about Russia is what is revealed in their arts." I now know much more thanks to my trip to the former Soviet Union during 1977 and now the internet.

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auxunauxia's avatar

Don't know why, but it surprises me that Russians don't have a functionally independent logistical framework for a unique LLM. Russian literature is super popular all over the world. If Americans can come up with AI like Grok and chatGPT, and the Chinese people can come up with something like DeepSeek, is the Russian language system not able to produce something similar?

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Tatjana's avatar

As Prof. Dugin writes, Russians have GigaChat, you can use its bot for free in Telegram (this is the option I found). But this is not the point. I agree with professor Dugin that Russia should not copy models from the West, but develop their own AI which would reflect their culture, their being, their soul, which make them what they are.

Actually, we should all do that. Prof. Dugin's writing is a great inspiration, he is opening topics we should all think about. Some things are universal (being a human being), but we should preserve our cultural specifics. This is what makes the world colourful and beautiful. And, above all, this is the only way to gain peace on the planet. No one should impose anything on the others, we can coexist and treat eachother with respect, not only in families and local communities, but also as humanity sharing this planet.

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auxunauxia's avatar

I'm glad Gigachat exists. If someone wanted to say, learn Russia via this bot they might be able to do so? Most coding languages to my knowledge stem from initial ones like UNIX. Python seems to be widely used by people who speak different languages. A lot of other ones also exist. From what I have read, most coding languages operate under English syntax. Is this what you are referring to in terms of Western-centric AI systems? I can imagine it might be pretty frustrating to have to follow English syntax when coding if you normally utilize something different in everyday language. Not something I thought about before but it does seem rather a big advantage for English native speakers when trying to learn how to code.

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Madame Publius's avatar

AI is nothing more than what Isaiah described as the “work of [man’s] hands” or “that which his fingers have made.” (Is. 17:8) It was created by “a cunning workman” (Is. 40:20) and is now being promoted with all the fear porn surrounding it in order to intimidate the entire world so that all will “falleth down unto it, and worshipeth it, and prayeth unto it” and call it our “god”. (Is. 44:17) Once this happens, people will blindly follow the dictates of their progressive god.

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Aug 2Edited

Dear and esteemed Professor Aleksandr

Having studied, from afar and now from near, a descendant branch of your Russian Siberians, having come to appreciate more and more their specialist, resistant and deeply compassionate social philosophy, I have something to offer you.

I share your concerns, all of them, including that your beloved Russia is as much as ever in danger. The causes and prognosis I agree, the Emergency Exit I label otherwise, which MAY interest.

I hope to write to you in the near future, direct if possible rather than electronically.

You may reply with a private message to my substack

Affectionately

SZP/DD

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Xavier Oregon's avatar

AI isn't what it used to be... Its recent responses, while still critical and proactive, are vastly different from its early counterparts. Chat GPT is now more like the CIA, while Grok is more like the Pentagon...

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Xavier Oregon's avatar

No, I asked very objective questions. I don't understand what your pain is and what are you doing here?

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DD's avatar

As you seem to have objected to my reply, I've removed it.

I am here, though, in Professor Dugin's substack, because I like what he writes and sometimes my feeling is that he deserves a reply; Third Parties not usually relevant.

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