Sounds like a fairytale compared to what is experienced in thebcountry once you are in, including when being involved with the government (I am no radical oppositor, just in case).
I agree. I keep seeing users reposting this type of article about Venezuela and it's obvious they have never been there. Most likely have never been to Latin America. The reality on the ground is a stark contrast. Venezuelans are flooding neighboring countries to get out.
And a relative of mine once had somehow close links to Diosdado and Maduro during the times of the harshest economic struggle (from 2013 to 2017), and he learned that Polar Enterprises (their supposed biggest capitalist neoliberal local enemy at the time) personally sent groceries from the company to the houses of both Maduro and Cabello. He also told me that Polar's CEO Lorenzo Mendoza personally called their security staff in order to let the food pass.
That was the time when the massive migration started, mainly because many people could not afford food or had to do long lines to get them at affordable prices (ridiculously low prices, as minimum wage became less than 3$ per month).
That's why I say this is a joke. Maybe some popular forces at the lowest levels may have serious intentions and loyalty towards the cause commented in this article, but it becomes a blatant joke to extol Maduro and Diosdado. Like if the writers had no idea of how strong the 'panes et circenses' aspect of modern politics has become.
it's 'panem circensesque' if you're going to try and quote accurately...
While giving bread to the poor is hardly something to criticise in a country with so much deprivation. And the deprivation didn't start with Chavez or Maduro, now did it?
Maduro cannot really be attacked for putting on entertainments to woo voters. That's the kind of crap los ricos get up to..
And anyway, I don't believe you or your stories. They're just very simple ways to undermine Venezuela..
Blaming Chavez and Madura for the terrible shortages deliberately caused by US aggression is jut asinine..
Well I’m no Latin expert. Yet I do live in Venezuela and also during thoe harsh years.
One argument said to many chavista followers and that fits to respond to your comment is that having others doing it worse or external influences sabotaging doesn’t exclude them from the consequences of their acts or ignorance especially after so many years. Don’t play with the word deprivation when the country faced hyperinflation WITH MAduro or make their innocence look acceptable or expiatory, when Maduro himself said once liv in 2018 that he had just found out that people were living with 2-3$ monthly. And Maduro may look like an innocent but he’s not fully one of them and like I said, a close relative of mine learned about that. I accompany him to Diosdado’s house one day in Fuerte Tiuna, and people there said the neighbor house was where Maduro and Cilia lived. And I’m replying about Maduro because the case of Diosdado deserves no words.
The first part of this reply is just complete nonsense... Economic warfare and the promotion of internal instability has been constant since Chavez..
No government could have avoided the hardships caused to ordinary Venezuelans..except by caving into US and Western pressure... and even then the people would merely see their country sold from under them into the hands of people who historically have kept the majority of the population in the direst of poverty for many decades.
All the rest of what you say is narrative... it may or may not be true.. either way, it makes little difference to the Venezuelans' struggle against the US gangsters and the traitors it has bought within Venezuela.
Of which you are probably one...
You want to see what is in store if the Revolución Bolivariana fails? Look at Argentina.
Is also part of the "narrative" to blame someone else for problems that are long term and rooted precisely on their chronically corrupted top officials, or that someone critizing them is a US gangster. You should know that I end up agreeing or end in better terms with chavistas than with oppositors because I do not take the lies of neoliberalism either, but stsy oppositor because the lies are too blatant. Many chavistas I know do not support Maduro because it's clear they have been ridiculizing and destroying Chavez's legacy and principles.
Diosdado was exposed by Chavez himself live, and by those direct links and a few times working close to him my relative noticed how he was playing in favor (and like normal) with country's economics during those times (suddenly increasing prices, using official currency exchange rate (6 Bs/$ when the parallel and REAL one was hundreds of time more expensive) to buy trucks and expensive things).
The whole politics world may be a joke but then at least have serious analysts (or compassionate ones that first visit and explore first-handedly what has happened here) that don't worsen the joke.
The keystone cops military and diplomatic circus (aka America) couldn’t overpower tiny little Cuba at a time when their power was at it’s peak and they had a somewhat passable president.
They are now in terminal decline, their bloated military having been defeated by everyone from the Vietnamese to the Taliban and they are now led by a complete idiot.
Sounds like a fairytale compared to what is experienced in thebcountry once you are in, including when being involved with the government (I am no radical oppositor, just in case).
This post is a joke.
I agree. I keep seeing users reposting this type of article about Venezuela and it's obvious they have never been there. Most likely have never been to Latin America. The reality on the ground is a stark contrast. Venezuelans are flooding neighboring countries to get out.
And a relative of mine once had somehow close links to Diosdado and Maduro during the times of the harshest economic struggle (from 2013 to 2017), and he learned that Polar Enterprises (their supposed biggest capitalist neoliberal local enemy at the time) personally sent groceries from the company to the houses of both Maduro and Cabello. He also told me that Polar's CEO Lorenzo Mendoza personally called their security staff in order to let the food pass.
That was the time when the massive migration started, mainly because many people could not afford food or had to do long lines to get them at affordable prices (ridiculously low prices, as minimum wage became less than 3$ per month).
That's why I say this is a joke. Maybe some popular forces at the lowest levels may have serious intentions and loyalty towards the cause commented in this article, but it becomes a blatant joke to extol Maduro and Diosdado. Like if the writers had no idea of how strong the 'panes et circenses' aspect of modern politics has become.
it's 'panem circensesque' if you're going to try and quote accurately...
While giving bread to the poor is hardly something to criticise in a country with so much deprivation. And the deprivation didn't start with Chavez or Maduro, now did it?
Maduro cannot really be attacked for putting on entertainments to woo voters. That's the kind of crap los ricos get up to..
And anyway, I don't believe you or your stories. They're just very simple ways to undermine Venezuela..
Blaming Chavez and Madura for the terrible shortages deliberately caused by US aggression is jut asinine..
Well I’m no Latin expert. Yet I do live in Venezuela and also during thoe harsh years.
One argument said to many chavista followers and that fits to respond to your comment is that having others doing it worse or external influences sabotaging doesn’t exclude them from the consequences of their acts or ignorance especially after so many years. Don’t play with the word deprivation when the country faced hyperinflation WITH MAduro or make their innocence look acceptable or expiatory, when Maduro himself said once liv in 2018 that he had just found out that people were living with 2-3$ monthly. And Maduro may look like an innocent but he’s not fully one of them and like I said, a close relative of mine learned about that. I accompany him to Diosdado’s house one day in Fuerte Tiuna, and people there said the neighbor house was where Maduro and Cilia lived. And I’m replying about Maduro because the case of Diosdado deserves no words.
The first part of this reply is just complete nonsense... Economic warfare and the promotion of internal instability has been constant since Chavez..
No government could have avoided the hardships caused to ordinary Venezuelans..except by caving into US and Western pressure... and even then the people would merely see their country sold from under them into the hands of people who historically have kept the majority of the population in the direst of poverty for many decades.
All the rest of what you say is narrative... it may or may not be true.. either way, it makes little difference to the Venezuelans' struggle against the US gangsters and the traitors it has bought within Venezuela.
Of which you are probably one...
You want to see what is in store if the Revolución Bolivariana fails? Look at Argentina.
Is also part of the "narrative" to blame someone else for problems that are long term and rooted precisely on their chronically corrupted top officials, or that someone critizing them is a US gangster. You should know that I end up agreeing or end in better terms with chavistas than with oppositors because I do not take the lies of neoliberalism either, but stsy oppositor because the lies are too blatant. Many chavistas I know do not support Maduro because it's clear they have been ridiculizing and destroying Chavez's legacy and principles.
Diosdado was exposed by Chavez himself live, and by those direct links and a few times working close to him my relative noticed how he was playing in favor (and like normal) with country's economics during those times (suddenly increasing prices, using official currency exchange rate (6 Bs/$ when the parallel and REAL one was hundreds of time more expensive) to buy trucks and expensive things).
Thats as maybe, but so is America a joke , in case you hadn’t noticed.
The whole politics world may be a joke but then at least have serious analysts (or compassionate ones that first visit and explore first-handedly what has happened here) that don't worsen the joke.
United they stand
The keystone cops military and diplomatic circus (aka America) couldn’t overpower tiny little Cuba at a time when their power was at it’s peak and they had a somewhat passable president.
They are now in terminal decline, their bloated military having been defeated by everyone from the Vietnamese to the Taliban and they are now led by a complete idiot.
What could possibly go wrong in Venezuela?
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