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Dr. Ozzie's avatar

Blaming MAGA for the current disunity in the USA is painfully stupid.

MAGA is the result of the disunity. MAGS was created by 60+ years of unchecked leftist politics.

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The Otter's avatar

I think you will find that leftism was certainly not "unchecked" in the 1960s. The whole reason Nixon won his election was a growing backlash against the radical youth. My article is not blaming MAGA for this state of affairs either. There's plenty of blame to lay at the left of the Obama administration. My overall point is that MAGA lost an opportunity for something better than this. Trump received a clear mandate from the American people and has decided to seek more division instead of crafting a new vision for the American people.

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Dr. Ozzie's avatar

Nixon’s election was a band-aid on sucking chest wound.

Your premise is flawed. The division you describe is exactly because Trump is actually attempting to enact his agenda.

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The Otter's avatar

From my perspective, Trump is not enacting his agenda, he’s just putting on a show. What are you blaming the left for when the only guy they had was Jimmy Carter, the one term president, —until the Clinton Admin — which even conservatives are nostalgic for. The GOP ruled the USA for the majority of this 60 year period you are referring to.

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Dr. Ozzie's avatar

Your perspective is deeply flawed.

Have you seen what’s happening at the border? It’s basically closed.

Have you seen what happened on his Asian tour? He brought China to the negotiating table by sourcing rare-earth minerals from other nations.

Have you seen what’s happening in Tech? The H1-B program is crumbling.

What are you expecting?

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The Otter's avatar

He got out-negotiated by China what are you talking about. I addressed H1-Bs in my article.

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Dr. Ozzie's avatar

Wrong.

He did not get out-negotiated. That’s a blatant misrepresentation.

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AK's avatar

This is glue-eating schoolhouse rock logic.

Look, the government expanded consistently from the 1960's through the 2010's and those agencies are effectively the real government. They are overwhelmingly democrat jobs programs, and multiple sets of laws (vra, cra, ect) effectively enshrined leftists positions as the law of the land.

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V900's avatar

Meh… You can blame Trump for a lot, but this is rather silly.

MAGAs has always been about taking America back from the international financier class. You can’t separate that from closing the border.

And btw: Hispanic Americans suffer just as much from unchecked immigration as WASPs. Probably more.

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The Otter's avatar

I mentioned that minority voters were upset about immigration. The issue here is the messaging around ICE, not that ICE is doing its job (which it appears to be doing very slowly with as much showmanship as possible). It's a missed opportunity to unify the base and bring more people into it, but instead the opportunity is squandered deploy some sort of neo-South Strategy. MAGA is clearly not taking on the International financier class, but instead supporting it with different prerogatives. Maybe this is all a distraction?

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V900's avatar

“MAGA is clearly not taking on the International financier class”

Which is the basic problem with Trump 2.0. He surrounds himself with all these neocons, and actually listens to a non-entity like Kellogg.

The establishment GOP can’t wait to stab Trump in the back, but until the time is ripe for that, they’re apparently happy to dress in MAGA colors and pretend that support for Israel is America First.

It’s a disgusting farce.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Trump can't help himself. But his unwillingness to unify the country is not the same as supporting white nationalism. As you say, white nationalism is such a nothingburger that people can't be bothered to even loosely agree on what it is.

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