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Daniel Yakoubian's avatar

I respect and love Dr. Dugin‘s analysis, but I am completely lost over his failure to recognize that Islam is virtually identical to Christianity with the exception that we consider Christ to be a saint or a prophet not a divinity - only one God. I really feel this movement must begin to understand Islam and how identical it is to Christianity when it comes to values. It is actually chilling to me the Christians talk about Christ and Christianity as if other traditional religions don’t exist. I can’t say how disturbing this is to me as an Armenian who grew up Christian and at age 70 on my own converted to Islam because it embodied the Christian values I was raised with more than any Christianity that I know of. I’m sure others feel differently and that makes sense we all had different experiences and approaches to religion. But setting Christianity up as exceptional is a little bit like Zionists setting up Israel and Jews as a superior race with a superior religion that is not bound by the same divine rules as everyone else. We all know how this is turning out. I hope Dr. Dugin can address this. Just think how much stronger this movement would be if Christians and Muslims could join hands as they should.

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Salahuddin Costa's avatar

Absolutely right. Myself a West European convert to Islam for more than 40 years, I keep asking myself how is it, that Christians don't recognise in us their best allies to achieve the goals we have in common, while swallowing the fake concept of Judeo-Christian civilisation!

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Simon Abbott's avatar

It very easy to understand. The Anglo-American deep state (which includes the banking cabal) decided decades ago - at least since 1970's but probably very much earlier - to use weaponised Wahhabi extreme Salafist Islam as a force for creating chaos, not just in West Asia but also through migration caused by their wars to promote terror at 'home' in Western countries.

This also used the schism between Sunni and Shia. All the terror groups being Sunni. And the Iran/Iraq war being the first deliberately constructed major conflict.

Billions of dollars have been spent in creating this terror and at the same time using it all as a way of demonizing Islam and creating a completely warped impression of Islam in The West.

This culminated in 9/11 and from then on the project became hugely successful - all of this involved deep involvement of the Zionists from the very beginning. The major role in the whole plan being played by British deep state actors - who created Zionism expressly for this purpose.

The relentless propaganda against Islam has successfully warped the way Western populations view it. This is a massive problem and unlikely to be solved for many years. Christian church leaders have mostly played a despicable role in deepening the ignorance and division.

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Simon Abbott's avatar

I used to respect Dugin - at least for some of his work. But this and most of his recent writing about Kirk is delusional nonsense, clearly aimed at whipping up support for Trump.

It's not working.

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the long warred's avatar

Few Americans have heard of Dugin, fewer still read. This is our 🇺🇸 fight and we already know it, as for whipping up support for Trump?

We have the Leftist enemy for that… All Trump says is what we’re long thinking and doing what we’ve longed for, now the matter is forced.

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Simon Abbott's avatar

In that case you deserve all you get..which will be very different from what you think he stands for.

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the long warred's avatar

Mr Abbott, we’ll take Trump over the alternative by 3 orders of magnitude.

The alternative are Cluster B fiends and losers who hate us insanely and behave accordingly.

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Andrei V. Gromovaty's avatar

What the hell is this "globalist liberalism" nonsense? And Christian tradition? Kirk was shilling Jewish traditions, not Christian ones - check his record. His death doesn’t awaken America; it’s a match tossed on the powder keg, fueling more hate between left and right, black and white, Christians and atheists.

It’s all a mess, mr. Dugin. As usual, you’re full of it.

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Simon Abbott's avatar

It's rightist propaganda from beginning to end and has no basis in reality at all. Dugin is clearly a hired hand in this attempt to galvanise 'spiritual' support behind Trump - and it's not working. The MAGA base is as repulsed by the Zionist genocide as everybody else..

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Mike Moschos's avatar

Professor Dugin captures real things here, like genuine and deserved grievances, but he's missing alot about America's political economy and culture actually developed over time. The United States was not constructed as a single, centralized “liberal-globalist” machine that was then later hijacked by Soros-style networks or the like; for most of its history it both paradigmically and practically functioned as a highly decentralized, sovereignty-diffused, institutionally system with actually existing lower case "d" democratic governance structures through things like decentralized and publicly accessible mass-member political parties, locally anchored finance, diversified civic institutions, and diffused and pluralistic institutional spaces.

So what we see now on TV as “MAGA” (I mean as presented on TV and as trying be advanced by big corporate and political figures, which is the version it seems he's referring to) is not so much a traditionalist uprising as it is late-stage product of the very post-1960s technocratic and foundation-driven apparatus that Dugin himself criticizes, and the Turning Point USA component of it, at least the version on TV and is Big Biz-Big Gov pushed is like a marketing architecture thats trying to channels youthful discontent into designed narratives in the hopes of not just steering it but also, I suspect more importantly to its directors, make sure that their is no resurrecting of the old large scale American conversations about the designs of economic and political structures, civic sovereignty, geographic policy variability, institutional pluralism, etc., etc.

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Joycemar Tejo's avatar

"Soros and liberal foundations financed universities and campuses, instilling perverse models in the youth. They called it cultural Marxism, but in reality it was Trotskyism — an instrument of big capital." - How delusional is Mr. Duguin? Does he ever have any idea about what Trotskyism is? No wonder why the Fourth Political Theory - actually the same old Fascism - is such a joke.

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Simon Abbott's avatar

This is just a propaganda piece. According to the most recent polls, Trump's following has never been lower and his MAGA base is crumbling.. His support for Israel causing the disaffection and defection of young voters.

Where Dugin gets this news that the churches are full and the country experiencing a religious revival, who knows.

It's either wishful or delusional thinking...

The right are clearly getting desperate.

Basically they are trying to wish this spiritual revival behind Trump into being.

Meanwhile the reality is much darker. The administration is destroying free speech and dismantling the constitution.

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the long warred's avatar

Lol. All Trump says is what we’re long thinking and doing what we’ve longed for, now the matter is forced.

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